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Bible and Technology Series

Mark Goodacre over on NTGateway has some news on a new series from Gorgias Press.

The Bible in Technology (BIT) is a series that explores the intersection between biblical studies and computer technology. It also includes studies that address the application of computer technology to cognate fields of ancient history. The series provides a forum for presenting and discussing advancements in this area, such as new software or techniques for analyzing biblical materials, online projects, and teaching resources. The series also seeks to reflect on the contribution and impact of computer technology on biblical research and teaching methods.

Looks very interesting.

If anyone knows of any research funding for this kind of thing, I have a student who is looking out for someone to support their work here at the Centre for Biblical Literacy.  It is interesting to note that this series is looking at various different aspects of biblical literacy and technology.

1. Using technology to aid research (data and text analysis, presentation, teaching)
2. Impact of technology on bible research and teaching

That covers some of the stuff we are exploring too and so it is interesting to see the overlap.  But there are some other areas which we are exploring here in Durham:

1. Impact on digital environment on bible reading and engagement
2. Development of self identity within a digital environment
3. Development of spirituality and use of the bible within such a new self identity construct
4. Role of the Bible within digital and communications media

Interesting stuff...

Pete

Review

Many thanks to John Painter for taking the time to read my thesis/monograph and for the review in RBL out today:

Peter M. Phillips

The Prologue to the Fourth Gospel: A Sequential Reading

http://www.bookreviews.org/bookdetail.asp?TitleId=5271

Reviewed by John Painter

I can see what John is saying.  I particularly like the phrase "Perhaps not since C. H. Dodd has someone taken this [the Graeco-Roman] context so seriously"...and also the recognition of some of the other work in the text.  I am not sure about his insistence on the readership of believers...but that's on ongoing saga.  I was saddened a bit that he didn't engage with the sociolinguistics bit - which I think undermines the Johannine community arguments quite well.  Perhaps I need to go beack to that in an article or something.

Anyway. Enjoy reading.

Pete

Tyndale Tech and the End of the Book

I do think there is a tinge of Mark Twain's obituary about this...but...

Just received the latest edition of Tyndale Tech and the key points David is saying are:

The inventor of the book was probably a Christian because all the earliest codexes contain Christian writings. Too poor to buy large pieces of papyrus or leather scrolls, they joined together lots of small scraps of papyrus to create a 'codex’ and wrote on both sides to maximise space.
 
Will our generation see the demise of the book? This has been predicted as often as the ‘paperless office’. It may happen soon – but not yet. Microsoft  has dropped out of the electronic library business while Google has recently had a surprise success (see below).

1)  Handheld devices are good, but not good enough – yet.
2)  Google has the legal go-ahead to scan everything – almost.
3)  Copyright law gives power to paper – for now.
4)  How to read books online – now.

Here's section 4 in full:

The best starting place for finding Biblical Studies books online is TynCat .com
which provides automatic links to online versions at Google and Amazon. 

Amazon provides “Search Inside” facilities for a very large number of in-print books. TynCat identifies the books which they put online (or are in the process of putting on line) by adding an picture of the book on the left, and clicks you straight to the online copy.  

Books.Google gives access to the largest selection of out-of-print books and a surprising number of books which are in print. They are said to have scanned 7 million books!  Don’t be put off by “Limited Preview” because this often means that 90% of the book is available, though there is likely to be a limit to how much you can read in one day. The missing 10% is critical for a novel, but for textbooks, the Google copy often saves a trip to a library. 
 
Some other online book sources are useful, especially for out-of-copyright books:

• Project_ Guttenberg – 25,000 books.
• About 400 other_sources – usefully categorized by subjects
• OAIster academic catalogue – 56%  of these aren’t found in Google searches
• University_of_Pennsylvania web catalogue - 30,000 books but almost no Theology!

Bible & Church History:

• Bible-Researcher. com – careful selection of books and articles by subject
• ABZU Ancient Near East catalogue (incl websites) - incl. academic Biblical Studies
• BiblicalStudies .org – well organised books & articles in Biblical Studies & Theology
• CCEL - Christian Classics Ethereal Library – from the Fathers onward, in English
• Project_ Wittenberg – mainly Lutheran & Reformation historical works

And a scary rider!

When we had a power cut at Tyndale House, people wandered about with nothing to do,
even though almost every Biblical Studies book worth reading was on the shelves.
The end of the book is nigh.

Seems a brave thing to say when Amazon is selling so many books!  I don't see the handheld devices taking over as beach reading!

Pete 

Obama

I have to say that I thought Obama's acceptance speech was a fantastic piece of rhetoric in the very best sense of the word.  His use of imagery, repetition and narrative was wonderful.  His retelling 'recent' American history through the life of the 106-year old woman from Atlanta was breath-taking.  DId you see wordle.net's version of the speech?

   

You can do it with Delicious Tags - so I'm beginning to gather delicious tags associated with my new role at Durham:

I wondered whether they did one for Biblical texts too.  And so I typed in John's Prologue...lovely...

..

Pete

PhD Studentship Available

  CODEC, St John's College, University of Durham

PhD Research Project

Communicating the Gospel in a Digital Age or Biblical Literacy in a Digital Age

CODEC has been awarded funding from The Methodist Church of Great Britain to establish a research project exploring either the impact of the digital age on the communication of the Gospel or the use of the Bible in the Church and in an increasingly digital society.

We are seeking a student with outstanding potential to pursue research in the above areas based at St John’s College at the University of Durham and within the newly established CODEC research centre in collaboration with the Director of Research, Revd Dr Peter Phillips.

St John’s offers a wealth of research collaboration opportunities including the Wesley Studies Centre, Cranmer Hall and the Department of Theology and Religion at the University of Durham. The research supervisory panel will bring together support from each of these centres, while the PhD will be undertaken through the normal University of Durham graduate processes. While pursuing this research you will be expected to work together with other researchers, academic members of staff and ordinands at the various associated centres.

You are expected to have a good Masters degree or at least a high 2.1 BA (Hons) (or equivalent) in Theology or a related subject. Candidates with a high 2.1 in Media or Computing Studies or related subjects as well as a postgraduate qualification in Theology will also be considered. Ideally you will have an active interest and/or experience in more than one of the following areas: communication, media, postmodernism, biblical literacy, missiology/evangelism. You should have good computer skills. Good written- and verbal-communication skills are essential as are the ability to work as part of a developing research community, be self-motivated and pro-active.

The successful candidate will be expected to complete the PhD programme including the publication of relevant research papers and academic articles, as well as contributions to academic conferences and the dissemination of the conclusions reached during the research. Candidates will provide a formal research proposal as part of the application process. Interviews will involve the presentation of this research proposal to a panel.

For an informal discussion or an application form and further particulars please contact Dr Peter Phillips, Centre for Biblical Literacy, Tel: 0191 334 3896, Mobile: 0787 633 7157 email: p.m.phillips@durham.ac.uk.

Closing date: 14 November 2008

Book Review

had a nice email from Perkins the other day asking me to join the panel for the Religious Studies Review which had just published the first review of my book, The Prologue of John's Gospel: A Sequential Reading.  Here's it is:

Phillips' slightly revised and interesting Sheffield dissertation, supervised by Loveday Alexander, offers a sequential reading of John 1:1-18, as opposed to a paragrammatic reading that traditionally involves "comparing and contrasting contexts, reading backwards and forwards…" (22). Methodological chapters draw on literary theories about Gospel beginnings and sequential disclosure (chapters 1, 2); rhetorical prooimia and dramatic prologues (chapter 3); sociolinguistic theories regarding antilanguage and speech accommodation theory (chapter 4); intertextuality and the term Logos (chapter 5). These disparate approaches are carefully interrelated so that they each illuminate the same thing: sequential disclosure. Chapter 6 offers a sequential reading of the Prologue, demonstrating how it instructs one in Johannine language and thereby invites one into the Johannine community.  The jargon is not an obstacle, and with so much theory in play, this reflects careful effort.  The nuanced blend of methods is also welcome.  It remains to be seen if what works well in the Prologue will work for the rest of the Gospel, which seems to demand paragrammatic reading.

Not bad - I must get round to writing the sequential study of the rest of John to show how destructive paragrammatic readings are...although perhaps even sequential readings are really paragrammatic!!!  Ha!  Thanks to George Parsenios from Princeton for the review...

Pete

More Pre-existent Son!

In my travels in the blogosphere, I noted the following link to Mark Goodacre's comments on the discussion of the book at his SBL section...sadly the link section of Typepad isn't working today...so here is the url:

http://ntgateway.com/weblog/2006/11/sbl-day-3-sunday.html

Pete

Pre-existent Son

I’ve just finished reading Simon Gathercole’s new book: The Pre-existent Son: Recovering the Christol ogies of Matthew, Mark and Luke.

I enjoyed the book – although found it frustrating in places. Coming from a Johannine perspective, I was pleased to see the possibility of convergence between Synoptic and Johannine Christologies, although clearly that is not the overall goal of the book and in the last pages, Gathercole steers away from this.

SPOILER: I’m going to go into some details in what follows, so if you haven’t read it, you might want to so my views don’t prejudice your reading!

There are some basic issues that will frustrate other NT scholars – basically the lack of engagement with any layering of the texts.  Despite the subtitle hinting at reconstruction, or at least some elementary attempt to recover that which is buried/lost, Gathercole has determined to deal with the text as we have it.  As such, there is little discussion about whether specific texts belong to a specific redactional level or whether they are to be regarded as authentically Jesus, or whereabouts their original sitz im leben might be.  Everything is creamed off the surface presentation of the Gospels.  Gathercole is up front about this – “it is an analysis of the Gospels as they stand” (p17).  So, the actual thesis of the work is “that the preexistence (sic) of Christ can be found in the Synoptic Gospels”.  Some might want to add – in the final redactional layer.  Others might want to go further and say that, since a good deal of the texts which Gathercole explores, sometimes in great deal, sometimes with annoying superficiality, are attributed to Jesus, that Jesus understood himself to be pre-existent.  That is a statement which the book steers away from stating openly, although the discussion of active pre-existence rather than inactive, ideal pre-existence and the emphasis Gathercole places on the “I have come + purpose” saying and on the Jerusalem lament (Matthew 23:37 et parr) would suggest that this is indeed something with which Gathercole would agree – i.e. that not only was the son pre-existent but that he was actively pre-existent and knew during his ministry that he had been pre-existent. 

That level of certainty raises a whole load of issues about docetism…and Gathercole is quick in the final chapter to attempt to shut the door before those criticisms come in.  He does this well – exploring the concepts of how pre-existent divinity and contigent humanity might come together in one flesh.  But I am not so sure he is successful in this.  But to be fair that isn’t his job.  As a NT scholar he is supposed to be telling us what the texts mean and then he can leave the problem of how this can be to the systematicians and theologians to some extent.  We have been ruled too long by those who have told us that the text must mean ‘x’ because that is the only logical reading when it has been obvious that this is the wrong reading (John 1:16?)!

The book is structured as follows:

Introduction

Here he explores the consensus approach to Synoptic Christologies and Pre-existence.  Some initial battles with Jimmy Dunn, Felix Christ and Hammerton-Kelly which will be returned to throughout the book.  Gathercole aligns himself closely to the “Early High Christology Club” represented by Bauckham and Hurtado (p15).

Part One: Prolegomena

Here Gathercole explores the some initial arguments which will back up his main argument already heavily trailed as something to do with the “I have come” sayings.  (Gathercole likes to tell you what he is going to say, then to say it, and then to remind you what he has said.  This makes everything nice and clear, although it undercuts some of the power of his argument and tends to be a little annoying at times!).  First he explores pre-existence in Paul, Hebrews and Jude as examples of the maxim that the earliest forms of Christian expression had high Christologies and that pre-existence was part of the theological furniture of the early Church.  In such a setting, he will argue, pre-existence in the Synoptics makes great sense.  Secondly, Gathercole explores the transcendence of Jesus in the Synoptics – i.e. that Jesus transcend the heaven-earth divide, the God-creation divide and even space itself!  There are some pretty weighty arguments here and I can already hear a good deal of sceptics talking about the need to demythologise the texts!  In fact, I think I found this section to be the most woolly.  I agree with most of it and don’t have a problem.  But I felt that it was just too straightforward!  Perhaps that’s my problem or I was having a bad day when I read this section!

Part Two: Advent and

Mission

This section carries the main argument that Jesus’ use of “I have come” + purpose signifies pre-existence.  In the first chapter of this part of the book, there is some considerable discussion of the ‘coming’ sayings in other literature and also the development of this phrase into an almost-consistent formula.  In Chapter 4, Gathercole rounds on the work of other scholars who have explored these sayings and notes their weaknesses and inconsistencies. After discussing a whole host of conflicting studies and various views, Gathercole’s conclusion is: “Neither previous arguments for pre-existence, then, nor the alternative views discussed above have sufficient warrant to be accepted” (p110), “None of the other scholarly opinions can be considered plausible” (p.113). This seems a little harsh to me – almost a kind of razed earth approach – cut everyone else down so that my argument is the only one left with any credibility. I would have thought there were more conciliatory ways of doing Biblical Studies! Chapter 5 moves to Gathercole’s own thesis that the “I have come” + purpose formula is closest to announcements made by angels about their own comings from heaven.  Here begins some of the books exegetical work.  So typically, Gathercole will list a saying and then give about a page or so to exegete the text.  I was at times a bit disappointed since Louis Martyn talks on the back cover that the book is ‘thoroughly exegetical’.  In fact, because of the sheer number of texts which Gathercole wants to marshal for his argument, he cannot fully exegete them all without this work being much much longer.  But I have to say that I wanted more in depth study of the text, more exploration of the Greek and some harder evidence of literary continuity/comparison between some of the passages cited.  Chapter 6 is the heart of the book – A New Reading of the Synoptic “I Have Come” Sayings. We now have the exegesis of a whole list of sayings with reference to their parallels:

Mark 1:24//Luke 4:34

Matthew 8:29

Mark 1:38 (cf. Luke 4:43)

Mark 2:17//Matthew 9:13//Luke 5:32

Matthew 5:17

Luke 12:49

Luke 12:51//Matthew 10:34

Matthew 10:35

Luke 12:49-51//Matthew 10:34-35

Mark 10:45//Matthew 20:28

Luke 19:10

…as well as supporting evidence from the parables!

Now a quick glance shows that not all these follow the same formula.

Mark 1:24//Luke 4:34 – demons saying Jesus has come…

Matthew 8:29 – demons saying Jesus has come here…

Mark 1:38 (cf. Luke 4:43) – Jesus says “That is why I have come/was sent”

Mark 2:17//Matthew 9:13//Luke 5:32 – “I have not come to…but to”

Matthew 5:17– “I have not come to…but to”

Luke 12:49 – “I have come to…”

Luke 12:51//Matthew 10:34 – “I have come/I came to bring…”

Matthew 10:35 – “I have come to”

Luke 12:49-51//Matthew 10:34-35 – again!

Mark 10:45//Matthew 20:28 – “Son of Man didn’t come to…but to…”

Luke 19:10 – “Son of Man came to…”

And even when they do, there aren’t that many, really.

But overall Gathercole’s argument here is spot on – these “I have come” + purpose statements do indeed seem to suggest more than geographical or situational reality. i.e. Jesus seems to be saying more her than “I have come from

Nazareth

to…” or “I have come into your situation to…”. There does seem to be a transcendence to what is being said – although I am not so sure the argument is as copper-bottomed as Gathercole suggests it is – why is it immune from someone doing a daisy-cutter on him like he has done to everyone else? The next chapter continues with an exploration of other contributory themes which seek to reinforce the main these.

Part Three: Jesus, the Incarnation of Preexistent Wisdom

Gathercole is not happy with a straightforward link between Wisdom and Jesus and spends a good deal of time unpicking a full-blown Wisdom Christology and prefers the suggestion that some Wisdom motifs are used by this does not necessarily entail pre-existence.  I think the issue here, not quite spelled out, is that if a full blown Wisdom Christology were accepted in the Synoptics, then this would suggest ideal, non-active pre-existence as per Hammerton-Kelly and co. rather than Gathercole’s preferred real and active pre-existence.  Chapter 9 explores Matthew 23:37 – a key verse for Gathercole’s whole argument.  I am glad that he didn’t make this the only verse on which to hang his argument.  I think everything is done and dusted by this point in the book and so this chapter just seems to be gilding the lily!  To suggest that the

Jerusalem

lament means that Jesus has always been lamenting over

Israel

because Matthew and Luke haven’t said he has been there yet seems even to me as a bit of special pleading.  We don’t know whether Jesus has been to

Jerusalem

before (how about as a kid – Luke 2:41ff?) and there is nothing to suggest that his lament could not have been ideal rather than real – i.e. in his head rather than stood on the mount of olives.  I can see the imagery of the bird and the wings, I can sympathise with the concept of God lamenting over

Jerusalem

.  I just can’t seem to click with the concept of Jesus at that moment speaking of a temporally transcendent lament over Israelite history per se.  But then…

Part Four: The Titles of Jesus in Matthew, Mark and Luke

In this part of the book, Gathercole explores some key titles – Messiah/Anatole (good chapter which really does contribute well to the whole work!); Lord (brief chapter and limited really!); Son of Man (no interaction with Casey at all apart from a couple of footnotes!!!  I understand the need to focus on the finished form, but surely the Gospel writers would have had more of a sense of Son of Man than just its apocalyptic references – look at the various ways the Caesarea declaration is dealt with!); Son of God (straightforward…).

The final chapter (14!) explores, very very briefly, some contemporary theological issues which Gathercole realises are raised by his approach and these are carried over into the conclusion as well with some explorations of the implications for Synoptic/Johannine and internal Synoptic repercussions.

Overall the heart of the book is in the exegesis chapters.  As I said, I was happy with this line before I came to the book and so was pleased to see my own views reinforced by some good exegesis and a new line of argument which I hadn’t expected.  I was even more pleased to realise the implications for Synoptic-Johannine relationships.  I think that John’s Gospel has been pushed into the margins too much and this work will correct that to some extent.

One thing that Gathercole does is to let us know he has argued a point more fully elsewhere.  So the next thing I need to do is hunt down the other places and then I might have a more robust understanding of Gathercole’s complete argument.  At the moment, in places, it feels like I have been told that a conversation has happened somewhere else.  I wish I had been there!  So I better read up and get there!

No doubt, I have been overly harsh about my reading of certain sections of the book.  Although I note that one of the few online reviews (http://kenschenck.blogspot.com/search/label/book%20review) says some similar things (but much better!)  And I agree with Shenck that Simon's grasp of the German literature is phenomenal. I am looking forward to seeing other reviews of it elsewhere in the near future! Overall - a great book – read it - be frustrated with it - argue against it! But in the end, I think that basically Simon is spot on - pre-existence was not a marginal concept in the early church it was right in the centre of earliest Christianity. Although even writing that makes my redaction critic hairs stand on end!

Pete

Shakespeared Out!

I know that anyone will be ready to tell me that you simply cannot be Shakespeared Out!  Not only is that an abomination of the English language but you just cannot have enough of Shakespeare. 

Well, last week we went to see the new Sam West production of "As You Like It" at Sheffield's Crucible and then tonight we went down to our local theatre in Chesterfield ("The Pomegranate"!) to see Emily perform with her year group from school in the Shakespeare School's Festival - also doing "As You Like It" but in an abbreviated 30 min performance.

Let's start with the school performance.  A stunning presentation - although you miss so much by cutting a 3 hour play down to 30 minutes. The main content of this gender-bending, and at times quite disjointed play, was all there - as well as the main characters and I thought the kids played it very well indeed.  We were also treated to 30 min performances of "The Taming of the Shrew", "Midsummer Night's Dream" and "Winter's Tale".  I was very pleased to see the latter since I haven't seen "Winter's Tale" before and it gave me a good hint at what the play is about.

I was a little shocked by someone from an Arts company coming on at the end to sum up the performances and suggest to these budding thespians that Shakespeare was incomprehensible and he never did understand most of the plays.  Not sure if this was the best comment to make in front of over a hundred students whp had just attempted their first Shakespeare performance and who will all be taking exams in the near future about their understanding of the plays!  Oops!

The Crucible production of "As You Like It" was spectacular.  Sam West is a gifted man and his productions this year at the theatre have been awesome - we've been to see "Much Ado About Nothing", "Fiddler on the Roof" (stunning!) and now AYLI.  The production had a good solid cast - with Eve Best as Rosalind and Sam Troughton (Much in Robin Hood) as an excellent Orlando.  The production mixed surrealism with humour and also a stunning spin on the police state.  I loved what they did with the lighting, with the moon - a massive helium filled light floating at the back of the stage changing colour with the mood of the performance - for most of the second half casting shadows over a huge polystyrene dove!!!  The minimalist representation of the forest was so good and there were crazily daft bits - like Red Riding Hood dancing across the stage.  Sheffield Theatres provide a good deal of exploratory material for schools which gives some interesting insights into the play and the production...here's the link.

The production is in Sheffield until the end of February and then moves to Stratford as part of the Complete Works Festival...what an opportunity...we are going to try and get to see it again.

Of course, "As You Like It" is a good 'postmodern' play with its emphasis on what really is marriage about and also its gender-bending love affairs - with the posibility of a Celia-Rosalind relationship apparently matched by a Ganymede/Orlando flirtation - in this production they do kiss and this is beofre Orlando knows that Ganymede is really Rosalind in disguise (or does he?).  Add to that the strange relationship between Touchstone and Audrey, Silvius and Phoebe (again a lesbian affair here between Ganymede/Rosalind and Phoebe - not the mocking line - unless you want a woman as you Lord) and an amazing performance by Daniel Weyman as Jaques the antifool (in high heels and a woman's neglige!) - the whole experience was a rich offering.

Some of the people I went with found the play too difficult to get into!  But having said that, we took out two boys, Sam (12) and Edward (8) and they loved the whole experience, although it was a long night for them.  I am not sure what they liked the most and whether they followed the whole thing.  But as I hear more from them, I am amazed at how much of the Shakespeare they followed and understood.  I am not sure that Shakesperean English is all that difficult to get into - although I must say that my own ears had not adjusted to the play until about 30 mins in - after that I was absorbed!

Two interesting things from this month of Shakespearean experiences...

1. Biblical allusions abound in the texts - especially in "As You Like It" - I'd like to explore that a little more fully and have taken down the Shakespeare volumes to have a closer look.

2. Shakespeare seems to have this odd thing of promising revolution and then providing conformity!  So, just when you think that Merry Wives is going to turn into a good advert for 'modern' concepts of love-marriages as opposed to fixed or societal marriages (an important discussion to be had in contemporary society not only Elizabethan!), or for the possibility of social mobility as opposed to the conservatism of late-feudal hierarchy/serfdom, we end with a silly poem about Epicurus and everyone putting up with their lot.  Again, "Taming of the Shrew" ended with a banal reminder of what being a wife is all about - in purely conservative tones - the kind that just doesn't fit today's world, or seem to fit into Shakespeare's characterising of his couples - how many Shakespearean couples actually fit into the pattern of marriage which Kate suggests is best at the end of "Taming"?  I am not sure where all this conservatism comes from...need to look into that.

Anyhow, I love Shakespeare and I have loved seeing so much of it recently.  In March we're going to the new Courtyard Theatre at Stratford (had a brief look in it when we went to see Merry Wives - it looks fantastic!) to see King Lear - can't wait!

Pete

Merry and Liberated Wives

Theresa and I took some time out this weekend to go down to Stratford to the RSC to see their production of Merry Wives of Windsor.  I had read Harold Bloom's dismissal in "The Invention of the Human" and was a little bit wary of the play before I went.  But Judi Dench and Simon Callow would surely make it entertaining!  Then I heard it was a musical version a few weeks ago and even heard Judi Dench singing on BBC4 - not something I needed at 7am in the morning!  I was dreading it.

We arrived in Stratford, found the hotel, had a fantastic meal at our favourite restaurant there, The Oppo in Sheep Street/Lane/Road whatever it is called, and then headed down to the theatre.  The programme looked interesting as did the CD's with the soundtrack - CDs for a Shakespeare?  What was going to happen?

Well the show was fantastic.  A mix between Shakespeare, musical and pantomime.  I have to say that it was thoroughly enjoyable.  I can see what Bloom means by Falstaff being a pale shadow of the proper Shakespearean Falstaff, and the rest of the characters were a little bland.  But the production, the music, the humour, the choreography and scenery and the actors really made it a very enjoyable night.

I loved the contemporary edge - with issues relating to ethnic minorities and arranged marriages right to the fore, as well as the whole issue of what life was like in Windsor among the nouveau riche and the not to rich!

I am trying to work out some kind of text/source criticism thing on what was Shakespeare and what was the new lyric writer and adapter...I'd like to see what they thought they needed to add...I was also amazed at some of the theological issues of forgiveness and repentance that came across and the way in which these are folded into a Christmas play...and then the old line at the end about people putting up with their lot...

One thing I would love more time for is to explore the theology and biblical background and intertextuality with these theatre/TV/artistic things I get to see - there is so much there to explore...one day perhaps...

One thing, Alistair McGowan, impressionist, played Mr Ford/Mr Brooke.  He was very good.  But in the talkback after the performance he said that Shakespeare's humour needed updating..."after all, I write some gags and they don't last four years, never mind four hundred".  Now I thought Alistair played Mr Ford very well, and for his debut at the RSC, he was very good.  But I am not so sure that he was right here - part of the wonder of Shakespeare is the timeless quality of his work (do you really need to update Romeo and Juliet - ah yes, West Side Story, High School Musical...Teen Shakespeare?) and his humour certainly stands the test of time.  I am not sure Alistair's will...but then, surely he isn't saying he is as good as Shakespeare yet?

The piece de resistance was Judi Dench as Mistress Quickly.  A strange part, but one that allowed her to to do her Queen Bess bit at the end, some marvellous comic moments, and even to break the heart with a wonderful soliloquy on the 'honeysuckle villain' Falstaff.  Wonderful performance that was one of those moments which you will remember the rest of your life.

Pete